Comments on: Microsoft Vista Content Protection – Inflating the Price of a Computer Near You http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you The Thoughts and Feelings of a Melbourne Person Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:34:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: etbe » Blog Archive » DOSing Windows Vista http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-7296 etbe » Blog Archive » DOSing Windows Vista Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:50:29 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-7296 [...] Chris Samual writes a good summary of Peter Gutmann’s analysis of the cost of Vista (in terms of DRM). [...] [...] Chris Samual writes a good summary of Peter Gutmann’s analysis of the cost of Vista (in terms of DRM). [...]

]]> By: chris http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4884 chris Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:23:59 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4884 Whilst most of what that blog writes is correct, he is not referring to Gutmann's post at all. He is also incorrect to say that the application can decide whether the premium content gets played or not and whether unprotected outputs are degraded or turned off all together. That logic is in the Vista protected kernel space and the premium contents credentials are inputs to its policy engine that will decide for you what happens. Media player applications are reduced to being mere remote controls for MS's media system. Monopoly in the name of content protection, a nice trick. Whilst most of what that blog writes is correct, he is not referring to Gutmann’s post at all.

He is also incorrect to say that the application can decide whether the premium content gets played or not and whether unprotected outputs are degraded or turned off all together.

That logic is in the Vista protected kernel space and the premium contents credentials are inputs to its policy engine that will decide for you what happens. Media player applications are reduced to being mere remote controls for MS’s media system.

Monopoly in the name of content protection, a nice trick.

]]> By: chris http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4883 chris Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:08:33 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4883 Unfortunately his blog has a broken anti-spam system that blocks referrers from here. Not a good start. Unfortunately his blog has a broken anti-spam system that blocks referrers from here.

Not a good start.

]]> By: hAl http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4881 hAl Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:11:35 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4881 Guttman's article is mostly FUD that is a nicely slashdotted hype amongst anti-MS communities. A more accurate description of the contect protection delivered by Vista is found here: http://blogs.dasmirnov.net/paul/2006/12/31/windows_vista_drm_nonsense Guttman’s article is mostly FUD that is a nicely slashdotted hype amongst anti-MS communities.
A more accurate description of the contect protection delivered by Vista is found here:
http://blogs.dasmirnov.net/paul/2006/12/31/windows_vista_drm_nonsense

]]> By: Halo http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4807 Halo Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:35:54 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4807 Windows Vista is required to play intermediary in order to support high-def. This is at the demand of the studios, not Microsoft. If Microsoft doesn't support it, high-def content could never, ever be displayed in full high-def in Vista. Apple will absolutely be supporting these measures, so it would be suicide for Microsoft not to. If any component in the chain does not support the protection, the signal will be degraded. Take your fight to the appropriate source. Boycott BluRay and HD-DVD. Refuse to purchase HDCP compliant hardware, both for your computer and entertainment center. Boycott iTunes Music Store. Boycott RIAA. Boycott MPAA. Boycott Sony. Boycott Hitachi. Windows Vista is required to play intermediary in order to support high-def. This is at the demand of the studios, not Microsoft. If Microsoft doesn’t support it, high-def content could never, ever be displayed in full high-def in Vista. Apple will absolutely be supporting these measures, so it would be suicide for Microsoft not to. If any component in the chain does not support the protection, the signal will be degraded.

Take your fight to the appropriate source. Boycott BluRay and HD-DVD. Refuse to purchase HDCP compliant hardware, both for your computer and entertainment center. Boycott iTunes Music Store. Boycott RIAA. Boycott MPAA. Boycott Sony. Boycott Hitachi.

]]> By: Joey B http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4806 Joey B Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:30:51 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4806 Hey does anyone wanna watch a betamax movie with me? Wait a sec, isn't there some similarity with this to BlueRay? Yes, yes there is! BlueRay is being pushed out in place of HDDVD and basically what MS is doing is believing their ego .. I mean market share is so strong they can now dictate the technology available for all. This may very well become their downfall! Hey does anyone wanna watch a betamax movie with me?

Wait a sec, isn’t there some similarity with this to BlueRay? Yes, yes there is! BlueRay is being pushed out in place of HDDVD and basically what MS is doing is believing their ego .. I mean market share is so strong they can now dictate the technology available for all.

This may very well become their downfall!

]]> By: James Mortensen http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4775 James Mortensen Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:48:45 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4775 Even if current hardware manufacturers are unwilling to create a product line for non-Windows based operating systems, this could create an opportunity for new hardware manufacturers to specifically target non-Windows based operating systems. Furthermore, industries that will be affected, such as Hospital Imaging, Astronomy, Video Conferencing, should become the target market for Open Source operating systems and non-Windows based hardware vendors. These industries - Hospitals and the scientific community - will demand a solution to the issues that arise as a result of Vista content protection. Now is the time to begin targeting this market! The costs of gaining market share in these industries appear to be small, yet the returns should be enormous! Even if current hardware manufacturers are unwilling to create a product line for non-Windows based operating systems, this could create an opportunity for new hardware manufacturers to specifically target non-Windows based operating systems.

Furthermore, industries that will be affected, such as Hospital Imaging, Astronomy, Video Conferencing, should become the target market for Open Source operating systems and non-Windows based hardware vendors. These industries – Hospitals and the scientific community – will demand a solution to the issues that arise as a result of Vista content protection. Now is the time to begin targeting this market! The costs of gaining market share in these industries appear to be small, yet the returns should be enormous!

]]> By: Microsoft Details on Vista Protections at The Musings of Chris Samuel http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4766 Microsoft Details on Vista Protections at The Musings of Chris Samuel Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:50:39 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4766 [...] For those who would like to see some corroboration of Peter Gutmann’s A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection which I posted about previously you can access a document from Microsofts own website called Output Content Protection and Windows Vista which goes into some detail about what you can expect. In the future, some types of premium content— through its content policy—will specify that a full-resolution analog VGA output is not allowed and that the resolution must be reduced. It is not practical to change the actual scanning rate of the display, particularly because some displays are fixed resolution. But what is important is that the information content of the signal is reduced to the resolution specified by the content owner. Basically, a high-resolution picture needs to be degraded to make it soft and fuzzy. [...] [...] For those who would like to see some corroboration of Peter Gutmann’s A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection which I posted about previously you can access a document from Microsofts own website called Output Content Protection and Windows Vista which goes into some detail about what you can expect. In the future, some types of premium content— through its content policy—will specify that a full-resolution analog VGA output is not allowed and that the resolution must be reduced. It is not practical to change the actual scanning rate of the display, particularly because some displays are fixed resolution. But what is important is that the information content of the signal is reduced to the resolution specified by the content owner. Basically, a high-resolution picture needs to be degraded to make it soft and fuzzy. [...]

]]> By: Stuart http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4689 Stuart Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:46:46 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4689 Yikes! I remember the days when you could use computers for your desired purpose, rather than being coshed with viruses and arcane DRM issues. The Windows Vista user will have less EULA agreement rights than that of a ZX Spectrum user. At least on a 48k Spectrum you could play your beloved Dire Straits tape through the internal speaker via your tape deck (3/4 volume and treble, plus MIC and EAR sockets fact fans)! Yikes! I remember the days when you could use computers for your desired purpose, rather than being coshed with viruses and arcane DRM issues. The Windows Vista user will have less EULA agreement rights than that of a ZX Spectrum user. At least on a 48k Spectrum you could play your beloved Dire Straits tape through the internal speaker via your tape deck (3/4 volume and treble, plus MIC and EAR sockets fact fans)!

]]> By: Squeak (Helen) http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/comment-page-1#comment-4686 Squeak (Helen) Sun, 24 Dec 2006 16:44:48 +0000 http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/24/microsoft-vista-content-protection-inflating-the-price-of-a-computer-near-you/#comment-4686 Happy Christmas to you and Donna, from all of us. Alex is now 3!! love, Hx Happy Christmas to you and Donna, from all of us. Alex is now 3!! love, Hx

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