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	<title>Comments on: ZFS on Linux Works! (Update 3)</title>
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		<title>By: SMMDI</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-49917</link>
		<dc:creator>SMMDI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi first time ZFS install
benchmarks using &#039;time bonnie++ -f -u root&#039;  (Version 1.03d)

Slackware-current
ZFS ????-??-?? - Release 0.5.1 (hg clone, and current at this post)
Model Family:     Hitachi Deskstar T7K500
Device Model:     Hitachi HDT725032VLA360
User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes

ZFS - 20GB partition (end of disk) /dev/sdb3
XFS - 280GB partition 96% used (11GB free) /dev/sdb2

ZFS COMPRESSION=OFF
kary,2G,,,29257,3,14414,3,,,39285,4,110.4,0,16,7140,7,14374,8,7674,5,5426,5,18404,11,8526,7
real    6m1.486s
user    0m0.467s
sys     0m11.353s

with compression on it totally

XFS (yeah.. theres some problem here - Sequential Create and Random Create)
kary,2G,,,52955,7,25552,6,,,58908,8,118.0,0,16,376,1,+++++,+++,331,1,379,1,+++++,+++,309,1
real    7m1.703s
user    0m0.277s
sys     0m14.482s

ZFS COMPREESION=ON
kary,2G,,,67932,7,45118,11,,,139270,16,239.0,0,16,7545,6,13144,9,5975,4,4125,3,5090,3,1941,1
real    2m33.764s
user    0m0.440s
sys     0m10.953s

ill buy a few kilos of that please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi first time ZFS install<br />
benchmarks using &#8216;time bonnie++ -f -u root&#8217;  (Version 1.03d)</p>
<p>Slackware-current<br />
ZFS ????-??-?? &#8211; Release 0.5.1 (hg clone, and current at this post)<br />
Model Family:     Hitachi Deskstar T7K500<br />
Device Model:     Hitachi HDT725032VLA360<br />
User Capacity:    320,072,933,376 bytes</p>
<p>ZFS &#8211; 20GB partition (end of disk) /dev/sdb3<br />
XFS &#8211; 280GB partition 96% used (11GB free) /dev/sdb2</p>
<p>ZFS COMPRESSION=OFF<br />
kary,2G,,,29257,3,14414,3,,,39285,4,110.4,0,16,7140,7,14374,8,7674,5,5426,5,18404,11,8526,7<br />
real    6m1.486s<br />
user    0m0.467s<br />
sys     0m11.353s</p>
<p>with compression on it totally</p>
<p>XFS (yeah.. theres some problem here &#8211; Sequential Create and Random Create)<br />
kary,2G,,,52955,7,25552,6,,,58908,8,118.0,0,16,376,1,+++++,+++,331,1,379,1,+++++,+++,309,1<br />
real    7m1.703s<br />
user    0m0.277s<br />
sys     0m14.482s</p>
<p>ZFS COMPREESION=ON<br />
kary,2G,,,67932,7,45118,11,,,139270,16,239.0,0,16,7545,6,13144,9,5975,4,4125,3,5090,3,1941,1<br />
real    2m33.764s<br />
user    0m0.440s<br />
sys     0m10.953s</p>
<p>ill buy a few kilos of that please</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-38244</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what John meant was that he hopes they add encryption in addition to the already existing compression capabilities.

Be warned though it&#039;s still unclear to me as to whether the RAIDZ corruption bug has been tracked down and fixed yet..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what John meant was that he hopes they add encryption in addition to the already existing compression capabilities.</p>
<p>Be warned though it&#8217;s still unclear to me as to whether the RAIDZ corruption bug has been tracked down and fixed yet..</p>
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		<title>By: roland</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-38238</link>
		<dc:creator>roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I also hope they add native encryption as well as 
&gt;compression to ZFS

compression already works with zfs-fuse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I also hope they add native encryption as well as<br />
&gt;compression to ZFS</p>
<p>compression already works with zfs-fuse</p>
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		<title>By: John Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-38236</link>
		<dc:creator>John Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks really impressive. Reminds me of the NSS storage in Netware, somethign I missed when we went all Microsoft 8)
However we also still have some large Linux servers and potentially something like this could mean a change the file servers too as our major headache is growth in the user file stores.

Need more space for user docs and profile, add another LUN from the SAN and add as pool storage.
The quotering per folder would be really useful too.

I also hope they add native encryption as well as compression to ZFS as ten it would be a perfect all round user data storage filesystem.
(I think I&#039;d still prefer safe old ext3 for / 8)

If the write performance can be resolved then would be perfect for backup staging as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks really impressive. Reminds me of the NSS storage in Netware, somethign I missed when we went all Microsoft <img src='http://www.csamuel.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
However we also still have some large Linux servers and potentially something like this could mean a change the file servers too as our major headache is growth in the user file stores.</p>
<p>Need more space for user docs and profile, add another LUN from the SAN and add as pool storage.<br />
The quotering per folder would be really useful too.</p>
<p>I also hope they add native encryption as well as compression to ZFS as ten it would be a perfect all round user data storage filesystem.<br />
(I think I&#8217;d still prefer safe old ext3 for / <img src='http://www.csamuel.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If the write performance can be resolved then would be perfect for backup staging as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jgoemat</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-9468</link>
		<dc:creator>jgoemat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how different the tests would be if you didn&#039;t run on an LVM mirror, and instead used ZFS to mirror.  It&#039;s my understanding that ZFS outperforms software mirroring.  By using a mirror as the basis for ZFS, you lose some of the built-in performance and reliability, making writes synchronous and forcing resyncs if power is lost.

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfs_last.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how different the tests would be if you didn&#8217;t run on an LVM mirror, and instead used ZFS to mirror.  It&#8217;s my understanding that ZFS outperforms software mirroring.  By using a mirror as the basis for ZFS, you lose some of the built-in performance and reliability, making writes synchronous and forcing resyncs if power is lost.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfs_last.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfs_last.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-7601</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be supposed to, but it doesn&#039;t.  Not even the official one.

To be honest, I&#039;ve lost interest in it on that system.  If it&#039;s not portable enough to work on that then it&#039;s not ready for prime time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be supposed to, but it doesn&#8217;t.  Not even the official one.</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;ve lost interest in it on that system.  If it&#8217;s not portable enough to work on that then it&#8217;s not ready for prime time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kebabbert</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>Kebabbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solaris 10 requires 256 MB ram and no more. I dont know how mych Nexenta and Schillix and those stuff require, but they are not from SUN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solaris 10 requires 256 MB ram and no more. I dont know how mych Nexenta and Schillix and those stuff require, but they are not from SUN.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-5393</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a perfectly good reason why it&#039;s not GPLv2. Such as for instance Linux would be a perfect alternative to Solaris storage servers. &quot;Let&#039;s not give the competition our only weapon&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a perfectly good reason why it&#8217;s not GPLv2. Such as for instance Linux would be a perfect alternative to Solaris storage servers. &#8220;Let&#8217;s not give the competition our only weapon&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-5390</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would do that on a system I was only going to use ZFS on, but the machine I had in mind for that only has 256MB RAM and whilst Linux is very happy it appears it is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csamuel.org/2006/11/28/minimum-memory-steps-for-opensolaris/&quot;&gt;not enough to even boot the Solaris kernel&lt;/a&gt;. :-(

The system I was testing on here is my main box, so it&#039;s going to stay running Linux!

Of course if Sun had used the GPLv2 or a compatible license rather than inventing a new GPL incompatible license we wouldn&#039;t have this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would do that on a system I was only going to use ZFS on, but the machine I had in mind for that only has 256MB RAM and whilst Linux is very happy it appears it is <a href="http://www.csamuel.org/2006/11/28/minimum-memory-steps-for-opensolaris/">not enough to even boot the Solaris kernel</a>. <img src='http://www.csamuel.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The system I was testing on here is my main box, so it&#8217;s going to stay running Linux!</p>
<p>Of course if Sun had used the GPLv2 or a compatible license rather than inventing a new GPL incompatible license we wouldn&#8217;t have this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.csamuel.org/2006/12/30/zfs-on-linux-works/comment-page-1#comment-5389</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chris,
grab a copy of Nexenta and you&#039;ll have ZFS up and running in notime :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris,<br />
grab a copy of Nexenta and you&#8217;ll have ZFS up and running in notime <img src='http://www.csamuel.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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